How bstance bot works (sync pov)

  1. 4 weeks ago

    My job here is to prove that the 50% of this community is botting , we had this jewel from the February 2017 mAT

    Credits to Mister @sync

    And here's your proof.

  2. Good botting material.

    "Lam3rz Approves"
    -image-

  3. Edited 4 weeks ago by Luv

    You seem to have serious issues when it comes to presenting what you think is "evidence".
    It showed blatantly in your other thread and you're back at it with this one, so I figured I'd give you some hints.

    Here is what a proof cannot be:
    -> Personal anecdotal claims such as: "I've wrote plenty of scripts so I know a lot about bots and I can tell you person x,y and z are botting". In case it's not obvious to you just yet, this doesn't work since there is no way to verify your claims, or at least, you don't provide any. If that was considered a proof, anyone would come up with stories about things they allegedly saw or done and freely disculp themselves or incriminate others. Practical when you have no real arguments, sure, but unrealistic sadly.

    -> Baseless accusations, even when you coat them in apparently (but falsely) logical arguments. For instance, if person x does action y, then person x is guilty. Since person z must be doing action y, then person z is guilty. Or to take a concrete example of your own creation: if person x has rupt bot showing message in the chat, then this person is botting. Since Godly hides his chat, he must have those messages. Thus, he is botting.
    As you can see this is no robust evidence, since you have absolutely no way to prove Godly indeed has such messages showing on his screen.

    -> Unique occurrence of "shady" behavior. While it is a bit more complex, and it may in many occasions shift the burden of proof on the other party, you have to be careful when making definite claims out of single occurences. In this case, while I think it does shift the burden of proof on Ali, you cannot conveniently conclude he is botting. That would dismiss the possibility of a prediction bstance (instinct, whatever you choose to call it) without any more evidence. Especially considering he sucessfully gets wastreled at least twice later in the game.

    Anyway, if you weren't so definite and arrogant with your claims people would probably take you more seriously and you could get your point accross more easily, provided you actually have a point at least. In any trial, resorting to name calling and personal attacks has never strengthened anyone's arguments, quite the opposite actually.

    In before "circle-jerking" comments and all sorts of colorful insults, this is not intended to be a defense of Ali or anyone else in particular. It's merely me being tired of random people acting as if they had "secret information" about everyone else's bots without providing any solid evidence to back it up.
    Now ali post your fucking recording or gtfo cunt bitch circlejerk haha^^^

  4. Edited 4 weeks ago by Stark

    Ali didnt know where the spike is coming thats why he sb'ed the mes, aegis the fuse and used bstance.
    He knew a spike is coming, but not where.
    His whole playstyle was quite exhaustive with resources in the beginning which explains his skill usage. He later in the video used his resources in a similar style.
    And just to be clear: I am not defending anyone.
    Prediction bstances is normal and necessary against LaG spike.
    - That timing? Seems weird at first glance, but I see a logic explanation in a normal game setting.

    Sorry to say but your video shows nothing that we didn't already know

  5. @Stark Ali didnt know where the spike is coming thats why he sb'ed the mes, aegis the fuse and used bstance.
    He knew a spike is coming, but not where.
    His whole playstyle was quite exhaustive with resources in the beginning which explains his skill usage. He later in the video used his resources in a similar style.
    And just to be clear: I am not defending anyone.
    Prediction bstances is normal and necessary against LaG spike.
    - That timing? Seems weird at first glance, but I see a logic explanation in a normal game setting.

    Sorry to say but your video shows nothing that we didn't already know

    who r u? its obvious bot u shitter

  6. @MoskauMoskau who r u? its obvious bot u shitter

    who r u? it isn't obvious bot u shitter

  7. Some will call it "prediction", some will call it "skill", I call it "a clear example of a fucking undercover botter who uses a stance-bot and gets away with it since he has friends who will cover his ass."

    Special thanks to @sync who keeps an eye on the community.
    -image-

  8. I love how the bots can't tell the difference between a good prediction and a bot
    Don't you think if you had any idea the thought processes of good players then you'd be able to beat EDGE+4hench without 6+ rupt bots/prot bots/every other bot under the sun?
    Stark is absolutely right. It'd be much more suspicious if there was more than one example of something this close happening. Things like this aren't all that uncommon to happen once or twice every few games.

    Like when somebody who can ele or monk doesn't get rupted or cancel spells all game, then at some random point 15-20 minutes into the game dodges the first rupt used on him perfectly just like a bot would. Good players can do this because they've played enough games and are good enough to get a feel of what's coming and what risks they're in.

    If you guys had any idea what playing against LaG spike as a monk is like, if you don't spam lots of skills in prediction and overprot a lot then you're at very higher risk of taking random deaths than against any other build (even ap spike) beacuse of how instant the spike is and all the KD's/shutdown that can come on multiple of your backliners during it. Just like how Ali was spamming aura stability on the heal all game even when there was no warrior/assassin near him and while the heal was at 100% health, and how he was spamming prots on low AR targets at the start while he had the energy to and the LaG spike was at its strongest with full energy and 0 pressure on them.

    When you aren't even good enough at the game to beat EDGE henchway you should probably hesitate a little and be a bit less confident about what you think good players can do. That's probably a big part of why you blame so many people for botting (other than that you want to excuse your own botting), because you're too shit to know what good players who aren't botting can actually do.

    Sure Ali's bstance was "suspicious" and what a bot would do, but it's also what good players can occasionally do with a some luck and instinct (a lot of what good players can do with some luck and instinct could be called "suspicious"). If the best you can do is get 1/4th of a second out of multiple hours of MAT footage and you think that's sufficient to prove botting then you shouldn't be surprised that nobody cares about your opinion regarding this stuff.

    Maybe start by beating EDGE without a team full of programs and people might take your opinion of what is/isn't possible a little more seriously

  9. Stop flaming EDGE, everyone. That was a cool guild years ago.

  10. @Nick When you aren't even good enough at the game to beat EDGE henchway you should probably hesitate a little and be a bit less confident about what you think good players can do.

    I'd like to point out that our monthly finalists nearly lost to henchway this week and so did our brave friends from DnF. Please don't make jokes about henchies, they might not have feelings but they're probably more reliable teammates than most people in this game.

    @LittleYoshi I'm glad HDHR doesn't put a botter like you on ranger or mesmer. They are a true example by letting notorious botters like you play on non-botting rules!

  11. LittleYoshi

    Feb 21 Moderator

    @Ra ; @LittleYoshi I'm glad HDHR doesn't put a botter like you on ranger or mesmer. They are a true example by letting notorious botters like you play on non-botting rules!

    Watch me catch all the spikes with my shieldguardian bot next month
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  12. Unbaised input here:

    This is similar to some interrupt accusations.

    Keep in mind, IF the balance stance is a bot, you understand that it is casting in response to the casting of Wastrels Collapse. That is a 1/4 second skill. That means for this to even be plausible Ali would have to have had ping of less than .250ms. Very possible but definitely seems unlikely given the unreliability of ArenaNet's servers.

  13. Having 250 ping isn't low at all if you aren't playing on servers on the other side of the world. Apparently most germans have a ping around 50 on some euro servers.

  14. @Ra ; Apparently most germans have a ping around 50 on some euro servers.

    Fuck germans!

  15. watched it. everything aside I'm sure ali just "fatfingerd" that at random.

  16. Ra  Apparently most germans have a ping around 50 on some euro servers.

    Just checked: 390

    rip

  17. 15ms sup

  18. Edited 4 weeks ago by Lewis

    @Ra ; Apparently most germans have a ping around 50 on some euro servers.

    Excuse me?

    polar doesnt count hes french

    edit: on topic ALI ISNT BOTTING U FUCKHEADS GET GOOD AT THIS GAME 2k17

  19. Lemstar

    Feb 21 Administrator

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  20. @Lemstar

    You're a god tier admin.

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