2017 March Monthly

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  2. 5 weeks ago

    Too bad if Mad fury was back maybe this game could see a little revival on competitive scene.

  3. 4 weeks ago

    @Sadness Since I'm completely clueless of what happened I have to ask. By any chance the people of SuperNova JpN came back to the game? >:3

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    not spnv but Mistral Edge[Me], I was guested in a guild for a scimmage battle against GO. They still have 2 beginners + Act Hel logged around

  4. 3 weeks ago

    Sellous

    Mar 29 Member
    Edited 3 weeks ago by Sellous

    @faker -image-

    not spnv but Mistral Edge[Me], I was guested in a guild for a scimmage battle against GO. They still have 2 beginners + Act Hel logged around

    Yeah, they also have tak prot monk who used to play with HAnD. They have decent old school monks but rest of their team is not very xp from what I have seen.

  5. LosDopos

    Mar 29 Member

    @Sellous Yeah, they also have tak prot monk who used to play with HAnD. They have decent old school monks but rest of their team is not very xp from what I have seen.

    Besides that, the game has evolved dramitacly. These guilds were in their prime when VOD, sinsplit in particular, was still a thing (no offense). I'm curious if they are able to adapt to the current meta - cause the last time asians came back, that didn't turn out too well. Always cool to see old players returning though.

  6. Sellous

    Mar 29 Member
    Edited 3 weeks ago by Sellous

    @LosDopos Besides that, the game has evolved dramitacly. These guilds were in their prime when VOD, sinsplit in particular, was still a thing (no offense). I'm curious if they are able to adapt to the current meta - cause the last time asians came back, that didn't turn out too well. Always cool to see old players returning though.

    No, I definitely agree with you they had to abuse mechanics in order to win games. And that largely has to do with a variety of reasons. Do I think their new team is going to be good? No, they aren't reforming Me or HAnD it is just a couple Me + HAnD players playing with their gw2 friends. Some of these players I noticed are using pve characters with inadequate equipment when I scrimmed them. And they run oddlot builds. If anything I don't believe they're trying to be serious. However if they were serious I don't see how they could ever come back given timezones and servers. ( btw for those who don't know japanese players play with consistent 600+ ping on a good day. )

    1. Servers - > asians got shit on ping wise when Spnv, Me and HAnD were popular. EvIL and WM were already long gone due to drafted into mandatory basic training.
    2. Earthquake -> there was a period in japan where an earthquake also influenced people being able to connect. I forget how long this took to fix but it wasn't a quick fix.
    3. -> Timezones -> most japanese players did not have the opportunity to play when the competition was high. This is why Spnv, Me, and HAnD all consistently became scrim partners in order to maintain somewhat active matches and still become strong teams. But it also made it hard for them to observe top teams and learn their opponents. And for them to even participate in the MAT they had to log on at 3am. Which is why in some cases they did not try to switch their build and kept with their strengths. Hoping their opponents would not build wars them. ( although it was difficult to build wars ) though build wars is largely how dR destroyed Me. Me did not really ever face dR and kept with what they knew.

    Did they abuse stupid builds? Yes, but they still placed pretty consistent top 16 and even top 4 in 100k series. (spnv losing in finals, Me losing in finals, HAnD 2 x 100k... etc. And HAnD was more of the honorable type of guild. They ran a wide variety of builds; however, sineptitude was no stranger to them either. I think given the situations against them I understand why they did. Really too many variables to say how they would have done in todays meta had they been given a fair shot.

    Even if you're abusing mechanics if you're place high consistently when guild wars when in it's prime I'd say you're good regardless of that fact.

  7. LosDopos

    Mar 29 Member

    @Sellous No, I definitely agree with you they had to abuse mechanics in order to win games. And that largely has to do with a variety of reasons. Do I think their new team is going to be good? No, they aren't reforming Me or HAnD it is just a couple Me + HAnD players playing with their gw2 friends. Some of these players I noticed are using pve characters with inadequate equipment when I scrimmed them. And they run oddlot builds. If anything I don't believe they're trying to be serious. However if they were serious I don't see how they could ever come back given timezones and servers.

    1. Servers - > asians got shit on ping wise when Spnv, Me and HAnD were popular. EvIL and WM were already long gone due to drafted into mandatory basic training.
    2. Earthquake -> there was a period in japan where an earthquake also influenced people being able to connect. I forget how long this took to fix but it wasn't a quick fix.
    3. -> Timezones -> most japanese players did not have the opportunity to play when the competition was high. This is why Spnv, Me, and HAnD all consistently became scrim partners in order to maintain somewhat active matches and still become strong teams. But it also made it hard for them to observe top teams and learn their opponents. Which is why in some cases they did not try to switch their build and kept with their strengths. Hoping their opponents would not build wars them. ( although it was difficult to build wars ) though build wars is largely how dR destroyed Me. Me did not really ever face dR and kept with what they knew.

    Did they abuse stupid builds? Yes, but they still placed pretty consistent top 16 and even top 4 in 100k series. (spnv losing in finals, Me losing in finals, HAnD 2 x 100k... etc. And HAnD was more of the honorable type of guild. They ran a wide variety of builds; however, sineptitude was no stranger to them either. I think given the situations against them I understand why they did. Really too many variables to say how they would have done in todays meta had they been given a fair shot.

    Even if you're abusing mechanics if you're place high consistently when guild wars when in it's prime I'd say you're good regardless of that fact.

    I agree totally - and i don't have anything against "abusing" game mechanics. Honestly i think you can cut it down to using them to your advantage. I just wanted to say that i'm excited to see wether they'll put in the energy to adapt or give up beeing stuck in an old school mentality, which happened to many returning guilds.

  8. Motoko

    Mar 29 Member

    I read this somewhere... Keep in mind that the Asians had to play sin split and those types of gimmicks because Anet officially shut down their asian GW1 servers. They couldn't stand a chance playing anything interrupt reliant.

  9. Sellous

    Mar 30 Member
    Edited 3 weeks ago by Sellous

    @Motoko I read this somewhere... Keep in mind that the Asians had to play sin split and those types of gimmicks because Anet officially shut down their asian GW1 servers. They couldn't stand a chance playing anything interrupt reliant.

    Correct servers were the biggest issues and so was lack of experience vs top guilds due to time zones. No way for them to observe or play against top american, euro teams consistently. Also as previously mentioned for asians to even attend certain popular at times or mat's they had to stay up till 3 in the morning ( start time ) and stay awake until 8-10. Keep in mind these monthlies HAD much longer swiss rounds. 6-8 swiss rounds on top of playoffs, quarters, semis, finals. that's a whopping 10-12 game mat. But also normal at's were a lot longer as well. I had spoken with ero in the past a lot and these were the biggest issues.

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