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Updated OP with a bunch of recent matches
- Added in MAT, AT and Unrated games from Rudi and Stark
Yeah the best part about it is that it's not like qq imo lol
@Curiousity Nick you're a bot/cheater and have limited understanding of the game aside from graciously playing an ele and running around the map. Please do not go out of your way to convince the masses you're anything but those things. What I said was not wrong but I wouldn't expect somebody who was rank 200-500 by the time of 2011 to even comprehend that. That's like stating you were rank 10,000 in 2006. Anyways, not responding to you further (I think from here on out I'd like to only reply to people who legitly played and never once cheated)
Yeah I guess it would be easier to not argue with me considering I actually know what I'm talking about when it comes to teaching scrims and meta changes over the last 4 years
Wouldn't want your worldview to disintegrate by coming into contact with facts
@Curiousity 1) In what other meta did you consistently have to dedicate midliners to running flags for MAJORITY of games?
You don't have to run on midline, people do it because it's what they're used to doing even in lots of cases where it's a bad idea. Running on frontline is still good in a number of cases. Running on flagger is not viable since you don't have spirits/compass ranged heals any more.
@Curiousity This isn't only because party heals got weaker it's also because methods of shutting down rit's became easier and also because rits can not handle splits. (more reasons lol) (or your team wipes ;/ if flagger runs)
Wrong. It's because people got very good at pushing flags with builds like necro balance, water bala, 2 ele ranger etc and then people got good against that strategy by running on midline. Running on midline had little to do with rits being shutdown easier, it had more to do with frontliners running flags and getting [pushed] on effectively.
The only relation between rits being shutdown and running on midline is that the main way to stop your rit being camped is to put up pressure while having 4 damage, and (almost unilaterally) the only way to put up pressure while having 4 damage (vs 3 backline) is to have 2 frontline.
@Curiousity 2) Eles / mesmers / dervs do not need explaining on why damage is retarded now.
Actually it does. Just because the game is different now and those professions are much more powerful doesn't mean the game is worse (or "retarded").
@Curiousity 3) Teaching scrims were hardly ever meant to incorporate fun.
@Curiousity There are no pre-determined goals in mind when attempting to explain synergy, executing synergy, and also getting people prepared on how to play defensively or offensively
I don't even know what that means but as far as I understand, you're wrong
@Curiousity less diversity (only meta shifted) bars that literally must have experienced backline in order for people to survive. -> EX just one inexperienced monk with the bars you guys usually use results in rapid wipes for a very good reason
Just completely wrong unless you're talking about builds that were already banned in teaching scrims like double invoke or wastrels.
@Curiousity 5) My complaint isn't that scrims are more lax it's that it is a horrendous method for people to actually learn their position and learn fundamental basics within the game.
Watching the field
Preparing for spikes
ETC ETC ETC....
How would I incorporate this? For starters I would not look at meta builds I would return to older builds such as
Balance (older versions)
Stand rit / stand monk midliners
Mind Blast Split (for splitting, following splits)
*no flags* -> MIRROR 8 v 8 Tainted Flesh 05-07 varient team builds / adjusted builds (teach offensive / defensive play styles and synergy)
Couldn't be more wrong if you tried. After over a year of doing this we understood that the biggest thing new GvG players were lacking was game time. You can talk about all the theory you want but it doesn't help at all unless they have experience under their belt. And teaching people how to play old outdated builds is the biggest waste of time of all. We know this because we actually tried it. The game has changed for a whole lot of different reasons since those builds were played, why waste your time teaching people how to play a game like it was 10 years ago rather than teaching them what it is now.
Moreover the theory behind most of those builds would get you annihilated if you tried to incorporate them today. There's no equivalent to rawr spike today so there's no point learning the ideas behind it. Stand rits have been completely phased out and its equivalent things like solo invoke are almost never played anymore in any hard matches between good teams so they're being phased out too. Etc etc etc. It's just a giant waste of time. Once we realised these things we changed the goal of teaching scrims from mainly teaching people the theory of GvG to making new players be able to join the GvG scene as fast as possible and be competitive.
@Honk Sometimes the best medicine is hope buddy :(
One time I had hope and now I have aids, that can't be a coincidence
@Honk <link to the independent>
I'd rather have aids than read fake news websites thanks
@Luv Here's what I got:
Oath Shot Cunt, for tasty blackouts, 20s LR and annoying mesmers camping apply (shoutout to Elran):
The Scary Flaggy, to scare those cocky splitters and pushers on the heavy-split maps in March:
SoDominator, just for the fun:
The Spearosaurus, tanky as fuck and heavy dmg. Lsurge cunts, bring it on:
Apply para, I stole that from someone in this thread, but this flux makes it even cooler:
Imbue Surge, for annoying flag pushers on your flagger, helpless solo monks at stand an what not:
More to come
Isn't it only +2 without elites? Was trying to remember why we never brought cruel spear on the warrior lol
or is this +2 to all secondary atts only?
I love how the bots can't tell the difference between a good prediction and a bot
Don't you think if you had any idea the thought processes of good players then you'd be able to beat EDGE+4hench without 6+ rupt bots/prot bots/every other bot under the sun?
Stark is absolutely right. It'd be much more suspicious if there was more than one example of something this close happening. Things like this aren't all that uncommon to happen once or twice every few games.
Like when somebody who can ele or monk doesn't get rupted or cancel spells all game, then at some random point 15-20 minutes into the game dodges the first rupt used on him perfectly just like a bot would. Good players can do this because they've played enough games and are good enough to get a feel of what's coming and what risks they're in.
If you guys had any idea what playing against LaG spike as a monk is like, if you don't spam lots of skills in prediction and overprot a lot then you're at very higher risk of taking random deaths than against any other build (even ap spike) beacuse of how instant the spike is and all the KD's/shutdown that can come on multiple of your backliners during it. Just like how Ali was spamming aura stability on the heal all game even when there was no warrior/assassin near him and while the heal was at 100% health, and how he was spamming prots on low AR targets at the start while he had the energy to and the LaG spike was at its strongest with full energy and 0 pressure on them.
When you aren't even good enough at the game to beat EDGE henchway you should probably hesitate a little and be a bit less confident about what you think good players can do. That's probably a big part of why you blame so many people for botting (other than that you want to excuse your own botting), because you're too shit to know what good players who aren't botting can actually do.
Sure Ali's bstance was "suspicious" and what a bot would do, but it's also what good players can occasionally do with a some luck and instinct (a lot of what good players can do with some luck and instinct could be called "suspicious"). If the best you can do is get 1/4th of a second out of multiple hours of MAT footage and you think that's sufficient to prove botting then you shouldn't be surprised that nobody cares about your opinion regarding this stuff.
Maybe start by beating EDGE without a team full of programs and people might take your opinion of what is/isn't possible a little more seriously