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It's 1 am in japan atm. This is usually when they stop / jump on gw2.
@Ra Instead of theorising I decided to test this in a scrim yesterday.
I played Xinrae's with resilient, shadow, glyph and windbourne speed.
I thought the build did work alright considering I'm super rusty on backline and specially on ritualist. We played against a necro balanced with a ranger pushing for me alot and imo thanks to xinrae's and weapon of shadow I did not shut down as often I would have with warding. Still did a few times ofcourse, but that's your life of a rit :)
Wanding the ranger / frontline when you have weapon of shadow is great to get life spirit up or glyph. It was also great to push flags through. I did try once to resilient the flagger, weapon of shadow myself and blind the guy trying to snare our flag, which worked alright.
In the end it's suicide in general to play a rit vs nec bala and imo weapon of shadow would work much better vs pain train builds or physical builds with paragons or something. Still wasn't too bad.
I don't think it would be so bad if a lot of builds weren't caster dominated and if interrupts weren't as frequent / no consequence if missed. Also if the recharge wasn't so long. It's also hard to run when most professions can remove their own conditions (harriers, mend touch). It also doesn't help vs aggression. Too many con's tbh.
@LittleYoshi We can easily analyze this specific situation and talk about it.
What did the Rit play against? -> We can see he plays against 2 Hammer Warriors + at least a Dom Mes and probably an oldschool Illusion split Mes.
What would have been the best solution in this situation with enough energy/no rupts, snares or kds? -> Weapon of Warding against the 2 Wars and the Monks can heal/remove the hexes.
What was he probably thinking about? -> He is playing against 2 Mesmers with around 4 rupts combined, which would make casting the Weapon of Warding extremely difficult with flag in hand and he tries to cast Xinraes to get at least some kind of heal from it.
Should he have at least tried to cast Weapon of Warding or Resilient on himself? -> He was able to cast 3 of his 1 second casttime weapons without eating any rupts, which probably means the Mesmers didnt even look at the Rit and misplayed in that sense and the Rit could have abused this to his advantage and give himself a 24/7 Weapon of Warding.
What could have been done different? -> Run the flag to the stand on something else thats not the Rit himself against this kind of build.
All around you can definitely argue that the Rit misplayed this situation and at least deserves some kind of blame for it.
Right not disagreeing that he didn't make mistakes but his team made much graver mistakes. That doesn't mean the rit is mentally impaired especially when we are talking about a player that has been strong long before most of the current QQ players even touched PvP let alone the game itself. What is even more of a disgrace is mocking a player who had actual ties to QQ, iQ, DM, and dR. Say he played like shit but call him mentally impaired? Who the fuck are you shisha? I'm waiting to hear how you played with QQ.
@Strange Shisha my bad he got the warding off and instantly cancelled it with xinraes. 10/10 decisionmaking
Did you even watch the video? He had warding on for 7-8 seconds. ( It's sped up just incase you're blind or incapable of noticing) How long do you think warding lasts even with spawning power? Also where the fuck was his frontline? This video doesn't only show the rit made mistakes it shows his team seriously failed him. Also do you know who spirit conjuress is? That's divine ambassador and I'm willing to bet your history is nowhere near as good as his. So mentally "retarded"? Really lol? I'm sure you've made much worse mistakes. Sad you're a moderator on this site tbh. Don't respond you made a huge fool of yourself. SMH.
@Strange Shisha the rit didn't try to warding himself (which would've been as good if not better). He also cancelled his resilient weapon with xinraes twice.
Stop mocking the mentally impaired.
? He got off weapon of warding once. Might have even oomed after casting so much. All n All not sure why a team would even run on a flagger like that anymore. BUHO PLS!
@Ra Weapon of shadow would've been very good against that :)
Shadow is shit unfortunately. There is no ideal situation in which you would take shadow over warding anymore period.
@Motoko I read this somewhere... Keep in mind that the Asians had to play sin split and those types of gimmicks because Anet officially shut down their asian GW1 servers. They couldn't stand a chance playing anything interrupt reliant.
Correct servers were the biggest issues and so was lack of experience vs top guilds due to time zones. No way for them to observe or play against top american, euro teams consistently. Also as previously mentioned for asians to even attend certain popular at times or mat's they had to stay up till 3 in the morning ( start time ) and stay awake until 8-10. Keep in mind these monthlies HAD much longer swiss rounds. 6-8 swiss rounds on top of playoffs, quarters, semis, finals. that's a whopping 10-12 game mat. But also normal at's were a lot longer as well. I had spoken with ero in the past a lot and these were the biggest issues.
@LosDopos Besides that, the game has evolved dramitacly. These guilds were in their prime when VOD, sinsplit in particular, was still a thing (no offense). I'm curious if they are able to adapt to the current meta - cause the last time asians came back, that didn't turn out too well. Always cool to see old players returning though.
No, I definitely agree with you they had to abuse mechanics in order to win games. And that largely has to do with a variety of reasons. Do I think their new team is going to be good? No, they aren't reforming Me or HAnD it is just a couple Me + HAnD players playing with their gw2 friends. Some of these players I noticed are using pve characters with inadequate equipment when I scrimmed them. And they run oddlot builds. If anything I don't believe they're trying to be serious. However if they were serious I don't see how they could ever come back given timezones and servers. ( btw for those who don't know japanese players play with consistent 600+ ping on a good day. )
Did they abuse stupid builds? Yes, but they still placed pretty consistent top 16 and even top 4 in 100k series. (spnv losing in finals, Me losing in finals, HAnD 2 x 100k... etc. And HAnD was more of the honorable type of guild. They ran a wide variety of builds; however, sineptitude was no stranger to them either. I think given the situations against them I understand why they did. Really too many variables to say how they would have done in todays meta had they been given a fair shot.
Even if you're abusing mechanics if you're place high consistently when guild wars when in it's prime I'd say you're good regardless of that fact.
not spnv but Mistral Edge[Me], I was guested in a guild for a scimmage battle against GO. They still have 2 beginners + Act Hel logged around
Yeah, they also have tak prot monk who used to play with HAnD. They have decent old school monks but rest of their team is not very xp from what I have seen.